The Anglican Church of Canada made similar proposals decades ago. Here are the results of that strategy:
https://anglicanjournal.com/go...

If every one of the 1101 signatories to the save St. Peters petition contributed $87.20 annually that would make up the lost revenue from the Salvation Army. If additional sources of revenue can be found, good for you but first of all people should put their money where there mouth is. I contribute $500 annually. Not all can but please do not sign petitions without taking responsibility for your signature.

Excellent analysis. I attend a United Church in my community. No permanent pastor. It works. Well. The more I read and see about Peetri Kirik, the more convinced I am that the current pastor is bleeding this church with a hubris and frankly, an ignorance that blinds him from doing what is best for the Peetri Kiriku community. If you want to survive you have to change.

You Canadian Estos are unbelievable. You have these gradually manifesting financial issues with your organizations. The EM, the Church, etc. 90% of tou have spent the last 20 years pretending everything is ok or will fix itself. There are then the 10% who actually have the courage to step into leadership positions, and make the difficult decisions to impossible problems created by the fact that most would prefer to not get involved or do nothing. The people who have stepped up to serve on your respective boards (KESKUS, EH, kirikud, these people are crucified (pun intended). You go out of your way to make sure that no one will ever want to step into leadership, and for those who do, you make sure they will regret it.

👎This article is full of so many errors it's a waste of time to try to point them all out and correct them.
'US Esto' you'e bang on! 👍
'??' (TT) you couldn't be more hilarious!!! 🤡

It is very difficult for current families to go to church together, when at least a few of the members do not speak Estonian at all. The church is no longer inclusive in that respect.

Could a rotation of prospective new pastors come who simply speak English? The English sector used to be very active and it might be popular again with changes in our demographics. If there was a rotation of prospective pastors, and attendance improved, it would be very easy to figure out who would be best to hire on a more stable basis.

I actually enjoy seeking teaching from many English speaking ones on the internet. Here is one good Lutheran one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

So this is your response, AFOSP, sue for libel rather than acknowledging there might be problems with a minister that does not relate well to people? A full-time minister who can barely speak English? Maybe he should go back to Estonia!

If you look out of the box, there might be interesting solutions. But the problem is, nobody wants to deal with people like you - it's very stressful. People would just rather leave - and that is very sad. Open your eyes and help save the church!

Not true. The problems are created by the people in the leadership positions who run the orgs like benevolent dictators. Like EM - there was no call for proposals from the community, just their options. Everyone else was drowned out.

Like Peetri kirik juhatus - it's our way or the highway - literally! One would think they would have found out about the Columbarium problem when the Future Committee studied the options and presented them for a vote! Or researched it themselves!!

Maybe the people who should be in leadership positions will not ever apply because they will be crucified! It's the other way around, US Esto!

A reminder that this whole issue began with 73% of the vote in September 2020 being in favour of putting the church property up for sale. This decision was taken because the cost of running the operation is not affordable. The fact is that there are not enough regular church-goers (in either language) and/or donors to fund the maintenance of the building plus a minister (even part-time). To pretend otherwise is foolish. We need to a stop allocating blame and face the facts.

Did you not read the article that talks about business problems and solutions? Why is it that these issues and problems have not been discussed in detail with the congregation, along with community input and solutions? How can people possibly make an informed decision when they vote? Revenue generating ideas outside the Estonian community have never been discussed in the AGM.

We have a beautiful sanctuary, why not try to save it?

My god, do you lot ever make being an Estonian Canadian difficult and embarrassing. And I do mean ALL of you.