The Estonian House Board sets the record straight on the Tulge Külla initiative. ESTONIAN LIFE
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Jõudu tööle!20 Oct 2018 10:52
Tõepoolest, "Tulge külla" jõuk on kahtlane ja jaguneb meie kogukonda. Eesotsas Allan Meiusit, meile tuttav Ehatarest, tuleks käsitleda ettevaatlikult. Seal asjatult sooritas diversiooni.
Kas kordub?
Ingrid Tanner20 Oct 2018 15:05
very nice "all is well with Madison project" message... How many times have you said that.

It is getting tiresome.

I think there are way more issues that you need to deal with. Funding is one of them. And in case you did not know... it is way easier to get funding and support when there IS an actual building.

Additionally... you are out of touch if you believe our vision has no support from the community.

I believe you all are out of touch with the share holders...

I will repeat what I wrote earlier.. we actually voted to agree to the due diligence. And if you want to really gauge the community have another vote without the three org's' or the bank voting... then you really will know if you have support from the community.
to - Ingrid the mind-reader21 Oct 2018 07:04
How do you know what the shareholders really think?
Why - in your mind - shouldn't inherited share holders have voting rights?
The mendacious busibody, Meiusi, inherited his shares. Would you deny him voting rights? Why not?
Jaak Järve31 Oct 2018 10:30
A fundamental Estonian concept is that the community is responsible for the welfare of its people. This is not an option but a mandate; the people (young and old) must be taken care of. The 4 orgs have to abide by this mandate and be consistent with the communal obligations of charity and social justice. There seems to be an issue with what the individual shareholders of the Estonian House envision for the future. I highly recommend that the Estonian House Board of directors conduct another vote for their individual shareholders (no block votes) as to where the shareholders want the future of the Toronto Estonians to be located. This is the only way that the true individual shareholder vote can be gauged fairly without block vote interference. Let's finish this feud before it gets even more ugly. Kui üks süda ja üks hing!
Question about blocks31 Oct 2018 13:43
So are you suggesting that just people present in the room can vote? So the different sides won't be able to gather large amounts of proxies to create their own voting blocks?
No seniors using the EM?31 Oct 2018 15:00
"A fundamental Estonian concept is that the community is responsible for the welfare of its people. This is not an option but a mandate; the people (young and old) must be taken care of. "

A funny thing ... if you read the Madison due diligence report, the only mention of seniors is in reference to Revera. The document mentions groups using the house, but no mention of the seniors events. I guess they don't matter. Yes, you need to think of the dwindling number of kids in our community, but the bulk of users will be seniors when the building is built... would be prudent to acknowledge that and indicate that they are being considered for the new centre. They will be, in essence, the main users, provided you are able to get them back on side. The 80 and 90 year olds aren't in a rush to exit stage left and will be around. You have left them to the sidelines, not even giving them afterthought status.
Jaak Järve31 Oct 2018 15:28
When I refer to block votes, I am referring to organizations, that have management personnel voting on behalf of that organization. I have no problem with proxies, (as long as organizations do not give their block of votes as proxies to individuals.) I know that some boards never even bothered to ask their membership what way they should vote. I represent the Toronto Estonian Chess Club, and we have a block of 65 shares. We don't even have a dozen members. Is it fair that I cast my block vote?
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