Structuring Without Shareholders
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Does this make sense?06 Nov 2018 07:56
"Increasing equity participation ... by non-Estonians can only help build a strong foundation for sustainability" ... of what, pray tell?
...06 Nov 2018 08:06
"Increasing equity participation in the community by new Estonian-Canadians, part-Estonians and even non-Estonians can only help build a strong foundation for sustainability".
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equity/equality06 Nov 2018 08:39
"A new series of shares can encourage more to be active in the operations of the House as well as create an atmosphere of equality that levels shareholder input in the future direction of the corporation".

It might be helpful to expand on what 'levelling input' means in this context.

As regards "[creating] an atmosphere of equality", referring to the "Chairperson" or simply "Chair", as has long now been the inclusive societal norm, rather than "Chairman" in the "illustration", would be a better start.
Samalt IP numbrilt on siin varem kommenteerinud: ... (08:06)
What are you trying to say?06 Nov 2018 09:07
This article is composed in 'bafflegab'.
It leaves an impression but fails to state anything in clear, specific, concrete language.
Samalt IP numbrilt on siin varem kommenteerinud: Does this make sense? (07:56)
~06 Nov 2018 09:30
It says that the shareholders, [of the Eesti Maja at 958 Broadview Ave., which was built as a central point to fight for Estonia's freedom and independence, and to support all Canadian Estonian youth activities!], should have the final say on how any proceeds from the sale of Eesti Maja would be used.
the simple truth06 Nov 2018 14:18
The “Tulge Külla” Steering Committee does not have the authority or ability to redevelop the Estonian House on Broadview. This is the accountability and responsibility of the Estonian House Board of Directors as elected by its shareholders.
Erm...06 Nov 2018 19:52
The directors of Estonian House as placed/chosen/approved by the directors of the Estonian Credit Union, have no such authority, no matter what their mommies and daddies tell them.
foregoing future participation06 Nov 2018 20:39
"It is being suggested that shareholders of Estonian House Ltd, as major donors to the Madison Project, forego their equity and their future participation in the direction and management of the “Keskus” by surrendering monies from the sale of Broadview as a donation to a new corporation which will become a charity. Since charities are non-shareholder corporations, the donor focused strategy could make the liquidation of Estonian House Ltd inevitable."

A community where members give up their say (as shareholders) to a few is the hallmark of a community in decay.
Who's in charge?07 Nov 2018 07:00
From this, it sounds like "the Developers" are in charge and Estonians are only there to pick up the tab.
F.Y.I. Meiusi and Williams, we aren't stupid as you think we are! https://youtu.be/7GjnuEN9POw

Previous comments critical of Allan Meiusi get quickly erased. Let's see how long this one lasts. Makes me think that EWR has become "the Meiusi disinformation sheet".
Thank you, Editor (or Meiusi?)07 Nov 2018 08:45
....for not erasing my comment!
Samalt IP numbrilt on siin varem kommenteerinud: Who's in charge? (07:00), laugh or cry? (07:02)
:07 Nov 2018 10:36
I watched the video, totally reasonable approach by a neighborhood resident in 2017.

To summarize: we are not against development in general, we are against tall towers going up in violation of approved master plan for Broadview. We like Estonians as part of the neighborhood, sad to see them go, we are against anonymous tall towers that only benefit developers. I like the area, lived here for a long time, I have been hiking in the valley, seen some deer, etc.

I'm not sure why you keep bringing it up as a folly? Both previous developers decided to abandon the project, most likely seeing the opposition from the residents and the City. It is too bad it happened, but it did. It is too bad EH board went down this road twice, without realizing the risks. Madison project was a plan B to this abandonment. Tulge is a Plan B in case Revera decides to walk like previous developers did.
laugh or cry?07 Nov 2018 07:02
Samalt IP numbrilt on siin varem kommenteerinud: Who's in charge? (07:00)
research vs rhetoric07 Nov 2018 09:10
deflecting criticism07 Nov 2018 09:18
The real issue you're skirting is "A community where members give up their say (as shareholders) to a few is the hallmark of a community in decay." Shareholders were asked within a month of the announcement of the new project to give up to the Board their say about Estonian House.
Samalt IP numbrilt on siin varem kommenteerinud: research vs rhetoric (09:10)
miks sellist möga avaldatakse?08 Nov 2018 08:22
Mis sellel Tule Külla seltskonnal üldse Eesti Majaga või selle ehitamisega pistmist on? Sama hästi võivad nad oma eesmärgiks seada ka Torontole uue ja veel kõrgema CN Toweri ehitamise sest nende võimekus seda teha ei erine mitte kuidagi nende Broadview Eesti majaga seotud plaanidest. Ja mis eesmärk on EWR-il kes seda absoluutset mõttetust pidevalt levitab? Igal kirjapandud ja levitataval sõnumil peaks ju ka natuke mingi mõte olema. Okei, see osa et nad Eesti Maja ja Madisoni projektiga rahul ei ole omab mõtet, selle kohta mu kommentaar ei käi. Aga see jutt et nemad midagi Broadview peal ehitama hakkavad kuulub täiesti otseselt hullumajja. Kas näiteks EWR toimetus tõesti sellest aru ei saa?
Miks?10 Nov 2018 10:04
On tegemist legitiimsuse kriisiga. Ühiskonna huvides on vaeva väärt erinevate visioonide plussid ja miinused läbi vaielda.
Rahu, sõber!10 Nov 2018 20:01
Mille üle siin nii suu ammuli imestada? Juhul kui Revera ei saa oma soovitud kõrgendatud täisehitusprotsenti (mis ületab senist detailplaneeringus lubatut) ja seega otsustab taganeda Broadview kinnistu lõplikust ostust, mis teie arust juhtub? Kas ei juhtu see, et vastutustundest ja ettenägelikkusest tuleks Eesti Maja juhtkonnal ja Madison'i projekti eestvedajatel kaalutleda kõiki teisi variante? Nende hulka võiks ju kuuluda 1) mitte järjest madalama hinnaga Broadview kinnistu maha müümine (mis jätaks veelgi suurema augu Madison-i projekti finantseerimisse) ja 2) varem kaalutlemata 'Tulge Külla' ettepanek Broadview arendada oluliselt tulutoovamaks, mis võimalusel tagaks võimsamat sissetulekut ja jätkusuutlikust, kui seda tagab Madison, mille tuluallikad oleksid oluliselt rohkem piiratud, kuna tegemist on nii palju väiksema pinnaga, millest suure osa moodustavad fuajeed.
When?13 Nov 2018 11:24
Can someone please provide the public with a date or some point of time reference as to when the community will find out whether Revera will go forward with the purchase of Broadview Avenue?
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