How are you expect to see us at Asension Mass if you're in Estonia and we're in Canada?

You forgot a couple of small details, Maxim.

You forgot that the vast majority of us whorship in the Lutheran church. Remember us? Lutherans who you suggest are Estonia's "white trash"? Remember our mothers who you call "fair maidens"? (implying, sluts). Remember our fathers who valiently fought Soviet forces? (who you call Nazi sympathizers).

Do you really want us beside you in the Orthodox church on Ascension Day? I doubt it.

..I trust you meant worship-that's what usually goes on in such places. Some are so-called low-church; where there is an absence of Liturgy and visual beauty of icons as well as incense, and others are high church, where the latter is of considerable importance. But usually there is no room in church for any other kind of activity. It is a place of reconciliation, and getting rid of your anger. You should visit a church sometime-it could make a difference in your life.

I have just finished reading a review in the latest issue of Vikerkaar by Tiina Kirss. Interestingly, she comes up with some very similar views (regarding women during the German occupation of Estonia) to what Maxim has done. I doubt if anyone has the courage to suggest she is as way off beam as Maxim.

I'd wager that it isn't true.

Broad smears of Estonian women, or any other group, are rarely true. Also, knowing Tiina Kirss, I can say that she isn't prone to that sort of thing.

I'd wager that it isn't true.

Broad smears of Estonian women, or any other group, are rarely true. Also, knowing Tiina Kirss, I can say that she isn't prone to that sort of thing.

And to think that the comments are supposed to reflect the honour bestowed upon a new Estonian priest in our midst. I think you should all be ashamed of youselves! Where have I shown any negativity in my comments here, whilst my critics have come out ruthlessly slandering me and using every opportunity to discredit my name. At least I know I made the right decision getting out of the Estonian community in Canada. Time will tell what awaits you all in the future.

In your original posting, you say, bitterly, "For once something about Estonian Orthodoxy..." implying that it has been unjustifiably ignored here. And then, with sarcastic condescension, "Hope to see you all in Church on May 25th Ascension Mass", as if you didn't know that most of us are Lutherans.

You read bitterness into it, as you do with every single posting I make. I don't, and neither do my supporters. Why don't you stop speaking untruths and speak about yourself, instead of being low-minded and poor-spirited towards me.

Stop your scaremongering at once! You know perfectly well that the internet version of this paper is free-if you don't like any of its contents, don't come here!! Why threaten EE via me; everyone can see it's you that's the problem and not me. I demand that EE carefully review the tone of my comments against those of my critics. It will be plain to see that I argue for the sake of intellectuality and not to throw my weight around bullying other people when it takes my fancy as you have done here.

one day I will either use spell check or glasses!
Many blessings to all.
In our Lord
Isa Stefan

I'm glad to hear from you, and the warmth that comes through in your posting. I'm pleased that the Orthodox Church in Canada has received a bolstering of late, and I hope and pray that 1,000 years of Orthodoxy will be resilient in the face of all evil-even the evil that stems from within our own community towards me and a few others. Peace be with you and all our brethren.

Your comment is simply laughable! How can I possibly hijack anything? I have never wanted more than the same rights that are attributed to you. Why should I expect anything to be different for me or the Estonian community in Canada? Take a nice cool beer out of the refrigerator, put your feet up and calm yourself down. I hope this helps.

"How can I possibly hijack anything?" you ask. Well, typically, you divert attention from the article at hand to a topic of your own choosing with commentary that is insulting and implausible. Then, you defend youself with the tenacity of a maniac using debater's trick -- claiming access to secret information, shifting the meaning of previous statements, the use of mendacious, illogical or incomprehensible language, and etc.
Chains of commentary have occasionally surpassed one hundred -- and it's all about your higher-order intellect and your scorn for us.
How have you hijacked the reader's response column? By monopolozing it.

All I read out of all your mumbo-jumbo is another wishy-washy effort to blackball me-and it won't sork. There is absolutely no relevant criticism to use in any comment I have made with reference to this particular article. I'm sick to death of the hatred that you and a few other people harbour against me. I have never criticized you or anyone else, and yet you return here time and again incensed at anything I say, even if it's in a positive light. You must have a real chip on your shoulder!!!

Maxim. You talk like you got one or two critics and lots of fans. Is that just bar talk or do you really believe it. Also what do you count for wishy-washy in what your critics say. Looks clear to me. Just in case you think that I'm your enemy, I'll tell you that I'm Orthodox too, but I don't go too much even though I often pray to Jesus.

The cross I must bear is the hatred and violent language directed at me along the via dolorosa of my life. It's not easy, you know, especially knowing that my enemies are supposed to be fellow Estonians. I only take heart in the slim possibility that the ugly and abusive side of their personality is something that they are able to restrict to words, and that they really have no intention of physically abusing me or anyone else. But, all the same, I can't help but wonder what it is about them. They keep coming up with the same old arguments that I have rebutted ages ago, and strangely, don't add anything of their own to advance the subject. I would be thrilled to read something intellectual from some of these people for once, instead of the wasted energy being spent of character assassination.

Uninvited and without credentials, you trespass upon us with teaching and moral correction. You encounter ridicule and rejection, richly-deserved.
Yes, that would be a heavy cross if it were truly yours to bear; but, your heavy cross is, in reality, your monstrous sense of self-importance.

I have humbly accepted all the tortuous intellectual blows delivered to me by my critics, and I have always stood for their right to do so; just as much as I believe I have a right to my opinions. I think that this kind of positioning cancels out any hope of me elevating my own sense of self-importance. Once again, my critic is merely undertaking character asassination in a poor attempt to portray me in the worst possible light. I imagine that isa Stefan would respond with the following words-Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do. Here , here...and providing their continues to be Orthodox Liturgy said in Canada-don't forget my invitation to you all to attend Ascension Day Mass-then we will all have a chance to meet at the Pearly Gates. See you there!

"Father forgive them for they know not what they do" are among the last words that Christ said before he died on the cross.

To draw a parallel between that and your shameful status here requires a sort of conceit that I couldn't have even imagined till now.

For a start, my friend, I was referring NOT to my status, but to the vicious underlying motives which cause you to speak so ill on me, and which I have NEVER taken as an opportunity to do the same. Christ spoke those words with regard to all the wrong committed in this world-including the injustice you so belligerently persist in keeping up against anyone whose opinion doesn't fall in line with your own. I wish you nothing more than heart peace; please at least try to comprehend that much for now. How on earth that equates with conceit I'll never know.

Uh ? Mõista mõista mis see on .

WOW. It looks like Maxim is leaving .

I can't say that I really understand what Maximahv is going on about here, nonetheless, I'd wager against his widely welcomed diappearance.

I have noticed some weird programming myself. I think they need HTML education. Try putting a minus sign between the letters.

"My critics has grown ...". Now Maxim make up your mind. Is it one or more ? This is why you get in trouble . Did you mean "fair maiden" but wrote "fair maidens" ?

The programming is really screwd up. The double quotes also give a block. Someone in Toronto should call the EE. I am not going to waste a penny.

I can see the frustration in my critics rising faster than the waters that flooded New Orleans. I warned you what would happen if you kept up your hate campaign, and now you're the ones who seem mystified at why you can't write a comment. it's all backfiring on you and there isn't a thing you can do about it! Better luck next time..

Think about your parents, Maxim. They must be writhing in pain as they witness your performance here.

Unfortunately we had some temporary problems with text formatting. Nobody is trying to block or censor anybody.

FYI, ' is an HTML code for apostrophe and it was temporarily displayed without the conversion to '.

I apologize for any inconvenience.

Ei tea mis see Maxim tahtis selle komentaariga ütelda. Kas ta on ise ennast ülesse seadnud EE esindajana ? Paistab et isegi ähvardus on tehtud Maximi poolt . " .. they may well regret in the future". Või on jälle minu vale arusaamine . Muuseas , palun tulevikus mitte ahve solvata. Nemad on head , südamlikud , inteligentsed loomad ja ei ole pärit venemaalt. Teen ettepaneku kirjutada Eesti keeles nii palju kui võimalik. Kirja vead ei loe.

Siis küll ei loe kui SINA oma eesti keeles kirjutad (teatavasti puudulik), aga püüdku keegi kirjutada (puudulikus) inglise keeles-siis oled nagu politseinik kohe platsil!!

Aga juba lugesid . Miks sulle meeldib valet suust välja ajada ? Päikest sulle. Varsti näeme .