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The deteriorating physical plant of the EH has been obvious to users for decades. Puzzling, that those now contributing to the "GO FUND ME" campaign stood idle.
I totally agree that the Estonian house is not in good shape. Perhaps no one wants to keep it clean due to covid or the management does not want to keep the asset in good repair. I mean there is a bank that still operates there...
The board has stopped caring about the Estonia House... and that is a sad.
The Estonian house is currently still a viable entity
The board has stopped caring about the Estonia House... and that is a sad.
The Estonian house is currently still a viable entity
Yes, it's a case of too little, too late.
Not to late... that is why we setup a go fundme page
The Estonian house is in a great location
and just before covid arrived we had a great party that used all the halls. Try and do a large party at Madison .... and the parking issues... lack there of.
The Estonian house is in a great location
and just before covid arrived we had a great party that used all the halls. Try and do a large party at Madison .... and the parking issues... lack there of.
Samalt IP numbrilt on siin varem kommenteerinud: Ingrid Tanner (21:42)
Not to late... that is why we setup a go fundme page
The Estonian house is in a great location
and just before covid arrived we had a great party that used all the halls. Try and do a large party at Madison .... and the parking issues... lack there of.
The Estonian house is in a great location
and just before covid arrived we had a great party that used all the halls. Try and do a large party at Madison .... and the parking issues... lack there of.
Samalt IP numbrilt on siin varem kommenteerinud: Ingrid Tanner (21:42), Ingrid Tanner (21:50)
as I understand it, that the new edifice will not be able to replace or fulfill the present functions of the Eesti Maja. That should have been the goal: to either keep or create anew an Eesti KODU, if I rightly remember the name of at least one of the Estonian houses of old in the UK. A comfortable place to get together and to provide a venue for diverse activities. A country club, so to speak, or something akin to one of the London city clubs. Not with the main emphasis only on rarified culture and academic things, not that those aspects are unimportant.
I hope this initiative can accomplish a start to this end.
I hope this initiative can accomplish a start to this end.
Will the hundud be at Madison or will they decide on St. Peter’s Church
instead, will hellakesed choose the Baptist church? What about esto
school and lastead? If so, who are we building this for and how will the
young estos carry the future debt?
instead, will hellakesed choose the Baptist church? What about esto
school and lastead? If so, who are we building this for and how will the
young estos carry the future debt?
if you had read the website or gone to meetings your questions have been answered on numerous occasions
It seems that a lot of assumptions have been made. No one is obliged to use the new centre. The question is valid. Where will the children go? I don’t think anyone knows for certain right now. The centre is not the ark, “build it and they will come” does not apply. Certainly there will be those who want to use the centre, but it does not mean everyone will use the centre.
How much pariking space do those two churches have?
Ingrid Tanner was a part of the gang that tried to destroy Ehatare, after failing to turn it into a sheltered workshop for a failed cocktail lounge lizard.
The older generation of Estonians who built Eesti Maja now reside in Ehatare so, by rights, the proceeds of their investment and sacrifice should go to their benefit.
The talk of preserving Estonian culture is, in reality, twaddle. If that was actually a goal, then turning this newspaper into Estonian only would be a good start.
The older generation of Estonians who built Eesti Maja now reside in Ehatare so, by rights, the proceeds of their investment and sacrifice should go to their benefit.
The talk of preserving Estonian culture is, in reality, twaddle. If that was actually a goal, then turning this newspaper into Estonian only would be a good start.
Says the one who writes in English...
Kas on mõtet kirjutada eesti keeles, kui isehakanud õiendajad seda valdavad vaid algeliselt? Kas te pole kuulnud kuidas Ingrid, Allan, Roosi jt halastamatult peksavad eesti keelt kaigastega?
Taevas tule appi!
Taevas tule appi!
Samalt IP numbrilt on siin varem kommenteerinud: Hämmingus (10:07)
you do not know Ingrid Tanner personally. It is your loss. Unlike many in our community, if she sees an injustice she speaks up about it. It´s hard to find someone who is as practically-minded and has such logical thinking. And someone who speaks up when her own personal interests are not involved. A real community person. It is also why she is as good as she is in her work. She would have been great on our Estonian House board. Too bad that the bank did not support this with their large number of shares. It would also have given the diversity we so need on our community boards and in our community.
I would much rather have more Ingrid Tanners in our community. We would not be in our present mess were there more of her instead of people who go along with an idea instead of doing their own thorough research.
Oleme kahjuks karjaloomad.
I would much rather have more Ingrid Tanners in our community. We would not be in our present mess were there more of her instead of people who go along with an idea instead of doing their own thorough research.
Oleme kahjuks karjaloomad.
Samalt IP numbrilt on siin varem kommenteerinud: No place for children (00:36), Where I want my children (00:44), 958 Broadview value (00:58)
Is this really where Estonians want their children to spend time?
https://www.buzzbuzzhome.com/c...
https://www.300bloorstreetwest...
https://urbantoronto.ca/news/2...
https://www.buzzbuzzhome.com/c...
https://www.300bloorstreetwest...
https://urbantoronto.ca/news/2...
Samalt IP numbrilt on siin varem kommenteerinud: No place for children (00:36)
#13! and it is featured in the Vision, at the edge of the Green Gateway and part of the Heritage scene. So what if some ethnic communities missed the boat, Estonian House could be part of the heritage legacy, that whole era that helped grow and define the city and this country, even as it maintained in exile a living cultural heritage and community and now is home to the engagement with diasporic history and diversity, modernized upgrades, and regrounding.
Good link to the Vision and all the Maps of Broadview Avenue looking forward!
https://www.toronto.ca/wp-cont...
Good link to the Vision and all the Maps of Broadview Avenue looking forward!
https://www.toronto.ca/wp-cont...
It is great to see that the city sees Broadview's special qualities, as do its residents. I see us staying on Broadview and being revitalized actually, because of the positive energy directed that way.
Quite intersting since the old Chester School House is still there. The addition was built leaving the old facade between the walls. The old schoolhouse can be exposed, with the interior highlighting the heritage building, but completely invented as we see all over Estonia today.
The following is a heritage study done by the previous buyers and includes their concept for development. It was never approved due to its height and other issues.
Of course, the world has finally turned its attention to the miserable living conditions of seniors, which most likely contributed to the buyer backing out.
Yet we can all learn about the heritage aspect of the Estonian House building and perhaps learn to value the building which still belongs to our Estonian community.
https://cdn.reveraliving.com/-...
The following is a heritage study done by the previous buyers and includes their concept for development. It was never approved due to its height and other issues.
Of course, the world has finally turned its attention to the miserable living conditions of seniors, which most likely contributed to the buyer backing out.
Yet we can all learn about the heritage aspect of the Estonian House building and perhaps learn to value the building which still belongs to our Estonian community.
https://cdn.reveraliving.com/-...
Samalt IP numbrilt on siin varem kommenteerinud: No place for children (00:36), Where I want my children (00:44)
Ingrid repeated failures to get elected to the Board, thus the board must be 'disingenuous'. Grow up.
Ingrid Tanner on mulle võõras. Teda tundsin vaid lugeja kirjadest kui Ehatare kannatas rünnakuga.
Tema kommentaar oli vapustavalt seosetu ja hüsteeriline. Selle alusel teda ei tohiks lasta vastutusrikka kohale.
Kes seda kahtleks, võiks arhiivi kontrollida. Lausa häbi on tema arvamusi vaadata.
Pealekauba, sõnad ja teod polnud kooskõlas -- Lõpuks, ta tõi oma ema Ehataresse elama.
Taipmatu inimest ei maksa usaldada.
Tema kommentaar oli vapustavalt seosetu ja hüsteeriline. Selle alusel teda ei tohiks lasta vastutusrikka kohale.
Kes seda kahtleks, võiks arhiivi kontrollida. Lausa häbi on tema arvamusi vaadata.
Pealekauba, sõnad ja teod polnud kooskõlas -- Lõpuks, ta tõi oma ema Ehataresse elama.
Taipmatu inimest ei maksa usaldada.
Samalt IP numbrilt on siin varem kommenteerinud: Hämmingus (10:07), Hämmingus (11:36)
Confident the new esto centre will see the departure of destructive characters like Ingrid, the Väinos, and others who only know how to criticize from the sidelines while others dedicate uncounted, thankless hours to see that our community has a future.
Sadly, those who have dedicated countless hours solely for the pursuit of a new centre are out of touch with the larger Estonian community and never engaged the larger community with their plans.
If a new centre is ever built it is as an extension of Tartu College in a neighbourhood that has long lost its value. Working countless hours to create a place to meet personal interests and needs is natural. It is much more when people work hard to actually build a future for our young families, our children, and future generations. Not only does this require hard work it also requires skills and knowledge specific to the cultural community. This is the weak spot for those working and promoting the new centre. Wasted hours if it really was for the benefit of the Estonian cultural community and not their own interests and needs. Getting rid of the Estonian House cuts off most members of the Estonian community and only pleases Moscow.
There is nothing wrong with this small group wanting more space at Madison. However it is wrong to do it at the expense of the much larger Estonian community that has never liked the Tartu College location because of traffic congestion and the lack of parking.
This is the reality. Sorry to disappoint you with a reality check.
If a new centre is ever built it is as an extension of Tartu College in a neighbourhood that has long lost its value. Working countless hours to create a place to meet personal interests and needs is natural. It is much more when people work hard to actually build a future for our young families, our children, and future generations. Not only does this require hard work it also requires skills and knowledge specific to the cultural community. This is the weak spot for those working and promoting the new centre. Wasted hours if it really was for the benefit of the Estonian cultural community and not their own interests and needs. Getting rid of the Estonian House cuts off most members of the Estonian community and only pleases Moscow.
There is nothing wrong with this small group wanting more space at Madison. However it is wrong to do it at the expense of the much larger Estonian community that has never liked the Tartu College location because of traffic congestion and the lack of parking.
This is the reality. Sorry to disappoint you with a reality check.
Samalt IP numbrilt on siin varem kommenteerinud: No place for children (00:36), Where I want my children (00:44), 958 Broadview value (00:58), Obviously (13:02)
Väino on õige inimene. Temaga ma ei nõustu, aga temaga on võimalik asju arutada.
Aga teistest õiendajatest, nt Ingrid, Allan, Marta jt; nendest on parem hoiduda.
Aga teistest õiendajatest, nt Ingrid, Allan, Marta jt; nendest on parem hoiduda.
Samalt IP numbrilt on siin varem kommenteerinud: Hämmingus (10:07), Hämmingus (11:36), Hämmingus (14:01)
Võibolla sõnad aitavad pildistada meie Toronto eestlaskonna olukorda praegu...
Laip on laip
Kuldne Trio
Laip, lallaa- laalalaa, laip on laip, lallaa- laalalaa
viinast haisev laip, lallaa- laalalaa, olen laip, lallaa- laalalaa
REF: Eile veel oli elu, oli meri põlvini
päevast päeva panin pidu, kõik kiitsid taevani
Ammu tööl pole käinud, mul ihu väriseb
enam elada ei tasu, sest kusagil pole asu nüüd
Nutan vaid, lallaa laalalaa, kõik on läind, lallaa laalalaa
on elu must mööda läind, lallaa laalalaa
kõik on läind, lallaa laalalaa
Oh kes küll ütleks, mis meist nõnda saab ???
südamesse jääb veritsev haav
Oma lapsi ma hellitaks veel
kuhu viib mind see räpane tee …
REF: Eile veel oli elu, oli meri põlvini …
Olen laip, lallaa laalalaa,
suus on maik, lallaa laalalaa
olen elav laip, lallaa laalalaa,
peas on kaif, lallaa laalalaa
laip, lallaa laalalaa
laip, lallaa laalalaa,
laip on laip lallaa laalalaa
viinast haisev laip,
lallaa laalalaa
olen laip, lallaa laalalaa
REF: Eile veel oli elu, oli meri põlvini …
Laip on laip
Kuldne Trio
Laip, lallaa- laalalaa, laip on laip, lallaa- laalalaa
viinast haisev laip, lallaa- laalalaa, olen laip, lallaa- laalalaa
REF: Eile veel oli elu, oli meri põlvini
päevast päeva panin pidu, kõik kiitsid taevani
Ammu tööl pole käinud, mul ihu väriseb
enam elada ei tasu, sest kusagil pole asu nüüd
Nutan vaid, lallaa laalalaa, kõik on läind, lallaa laalalaa
on elu must mööda läind, lallaa laalalaa
kõik on läind, lallaa laalalaa
Oh kes küll ütleks, mis meist nõnda saab ???
südamesse jääb veritsev haav
Oma lapsi ma hellitaks veel
kuhu viib mind see räpane tee …
REF: Eile veel oli elu, oli meri põlvini …
Olen laip, lallaa laalalaa,
suus on maik, lallaa laalalaa
olen elav laip, lallaa laalalaa,
peas on kaif, lallaa laalalaa
laip, lallaa laalalaa
laip, lallaa laalalaa,
laip on laip lallaa laalalaa
viinast haisev laip,
lallaa laalalaa
olen laip, lallaa laalalaa
REF: Eile veel oli elu, oli meri põlvini …
Samalt IP numbrilt on siin varem kommenteerinud: From the sidelines (06:51)
I wonder how many of the "silent majority" who wish to save the Esto House have made a donation?
Samalt IP numbrilt on siin varem kommenteerinud: Observer (11:50)
We are in the Age of COVID. The “brilliant business model” belongs to a bygone era.
It was touted again today in a painful tour of the site and interview with the current manager for Museum Night in Estonia. Watch for the promised recording online from VEMU!
Who is in denial? Where are the “kola-kambrid”? And what to make of the privileged children of that era who are now seeking life support from Estonia?
No particular language ability needed – the visuals say it all, but for the interview in which responses defy all attempts to engage anything more than the most basic interpersonal communication skills.
Time for a reckoning.
It was touted again today in a painful tour of the site and interview with the current manager for Museum Night in Estonia. Watch for the promised recording online from VEMU!
Who is in denial? Where are the “kola-kambrid”? And what to make of the privileged children of that era who are now seeking life support from Estonia?
No particular language ability needed – the visuals say it all, but for the interview in which responses defy all attempts to engage anything more than the most basic interpersonal communication skills.
Time for a reckoning.
Samalt IP numbrilt on siin varem kommenteerinud: Estonian House on the Map (07:46)
The number of contributors and funds raised are both minute. Most would conclude that this initiative (the Go Fund Me campaign) is dead in the water.
This plan is very ambitious!
Also, very unrealistic -- since there will never be enough doners to finance it, or Estonians to use it after it's built.
I wonder. ... Is this a distraction to impede the development of the more realistic plan to build an Estonian centre on Madison Ave?
The question must be asked, since the promoter of it is the well-known destructive personality among us.
Also, very unrealistic -- since there will never be enough doners to finance it, or Estonians to use it after it's built.
I wonder. ... Is this a distraction to impede the development of the more realistic plan to build an Estonian centre on Madison Ave?
The question must be asked, since the promoter of it is the well-known destructive personality among us.
Samalt IP numbrilt on siin varem kommenteerinud: Hämmingus (10:07), Hämmingus (11:36), Hämmingus (14:01), Hämmingus (18:36)
The closing happened yesterday. Are they going to give back the funds raised for the gofundme?
I trust that those (few) contributing to this campaign will get a refund. It was ill-fated (and poorly thought out) to begin with. Let's not be naysayers, but instead welcome the move to our new facility. I was more than astonished to see (naysayer) Tanner refer to the disingenuous EH board. She might perhaps look in the mirror. Enough said.
Samalt IP numbrilt on siin varem kommenteerinud: An Observer (16:37)
As an Observer you wouldn't appreciate the significance of not having the opportunity to say No.
Samalt IP numbrilt on siin varem kommenteerinud: Estonian House on the Map (07:46), Save Tartu College (16:46)
Enough with the hot air. There will be no legal challenge. You can’t unsell the building. Face it, Broadview is gone and it isn’t coming back. Much like the gofundme monies that are now in the hands of the disingenuous Tanner lady. I think she took you all for a ride.
"You can’t unsell the building." ... (unless a fraud has been committed).
You also can't get the IEC business model off the ground.
Then, where do the proceeds of the EM sale go?
You also can't get the IEC business model off the ground.
Then, where do the proceeds of the EM sale go?
The lack of participants in this fundraiser only further confirms (again) that a clear majority of the community is NOT in favour of remaining at the Broadview location. If I were the Board I’d be sending Ingrid a bottle of champagne for helping prove this point.
Samalt IP numbrilt on siin varem kommenteerinud: Silent majority (06:31)
Rahamees and Silent Majority both said it well. The GoFundMe campaign clearly has little support. Ms Tanner has failed at past EH AGM's to be elected to the EH Board. Obviously, no support for her or her campaign. Time to recognize the reality. I found it appalling that she should have referred to the EH Board as disingenuous. Once she refunds the amounts, the donors will hopefully see the light and redirect the funds to the IEC. I find the silence from her end puzzling. Is she planning to keep the funds?
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