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Well said! Hästi öeldud!
The church HAS NOT been given heritage designation. It is on a heritage registration list. It is easy to try to baffle with numbers and so-called facts that aren’t.
Programs such as "Greening Sacred Spaces" assist faith groups in taking action to create a more sustainable and energy efficient place of worship. Something to think about. There are many interesting and affordable options to explore instead of tearing down this church.
Samalt IP numbrilt on siin varem kommenteerinud: Why Heritage Designation? (08:15)
The article states that the church has been recommended for heritage designation by the Toronto Preservation Board and the North York Community Council. That is a fact.
Where have you been all these years? Certainly not keeping the sheep!!
The congregation needs to survive and the $6700. you collected won't solve the problem.
Read the definition of heritage designation ….
The congregation needs to survive and the $6700. you collected won't solve the problem.
Read the definition of heritage designation ….
"The advantage of a heritage place of worship is the designation recognizes the significance of the property and provides assurance that future owners will respect its cultural heritage value or interest. Designation may provide property owners with access to grants or loans to support the conservation of the property. It also allows flexibility and alternative approaches for compliance with Ontario Building Code requirements".
Heritage registration and heritage designation are not the same status. Registration means that should a demolition order be requested by an owner, anyone opposing such request would have 30 days to ask for a heritage designation.
Samalt IP numbrilt on siin varem kommenteerinud: Heritage designation (13:30)
So who were the experts on the Council, revisjonikomisjon, and Tulevikukomitee who decided it was necessary to sell St. Peter's: and where is there work to justify their decision?
JULGUS,LOOTUS,USK
Väino, ma ülentan oma käsi teile et teha koostõõd. Ma nõustan et Peetri Kiriku seisukoht on parem kui mis Juhatus värvib, ja Peetri võiks tulevikus olla Põhja Amerika Välis Eesti kindel paik. Kui lastaks kuritegu kiriku ukstest sisse siis on väga raske sellega tantsidega. I observed before the Covid Lockdown a shaping drive to sell the church. At Vana Andres, we received two letters in May 2021 and June 2022 to discuss unification of our churches. We held executive discussions on this topic and responded within a month, that due to Covid Restrictions it was not feasible at the time. A limit of 25 people to congregate, and other financial limitations to comply with, gathering at Cemetary Memorials etc..There was not MITU rejections from us for discussions claimed by this PK Juhatus. Who in their right mind would have gone nose to nose under Lockdowns. 55K Canadian lives lost to this terrible recombinant virus. Does this not matter? Just returning from the West Coast, I see again, a hysteria on short notice, to vote again on a Wednesday night to sell PK. This intent is CONTRIVED. Another sahkermahker to sell a community Ikon. There is no need to sell this church in a rush. No need to listen to these unbelievable offers. Misinformation built on misinformation does not build community confidence or make for good relationships. Lets move forward with new ideas, Plats Puhtaks,and develop a more fruitful path to our Luteriusu mission. Julgus on vaja mitte müüja Toronto Eesti Ühiskona Temple,Varandus ja Süda
Väino, ma ülentan oma käsi teile et teha koostõõd. Ma nõustan et Peetri Kiriku seisukoht on parem kui mis Juhatus värvib, ja Peetri võiks tulevikus olla Põhja Amerika Välis Eesti kindel paik. Kui lastaks kuritegu kiriku ukstest sisse siis on väga raske sellega tantsidega. I observed before the Covid Lockdown a shaping drive to sell the church. At Vana Andres, we received two letters in May 2021 and June 2022 to discuss unification of our churches. We held executive discussions on this topic and responded within a month, that due to Covid Restrictions it was not feasible at the time. A limit of 25 people to congregate, and other financial limitations to comply with, gathering at Cemetary Memorials etc..There was not MITU rejections from us for discussions claimed by this PK Juhatus. Who in their right mind would have gone nose to nose under Lockdowns. 55K Canadian lives lost to this terrible recombinant virus. Does this not matter? Just returning from the West Coast, I see again, a hysteria on short notice, to vote again on a Wednesday night to sell PK. This intent is CONTRIVED. Another sahkermahker to sell a community Ikon. There is no need to sell this church in a rush. No need to listen to these unbelievable offers. Misinformation built on misinformation does not build community confidence or make for good relationships. Lets move forward with new ideas, Plats Puhtaks,and develop a more fruitful path to our Luteriusu mission. Julgus on vaja mitte müüja Toronto Eesti Ühiskona Temple,Varandus ja Süda
I am not a member of this church and never have been. I ceased belonging to church seven decades ago. As with many of my generation it simply was not relevant in my life. I have no axe to grind with those that do believe. I find it somewhat amusing that a church would have or need a "business plan".
As I understand Vaino's numbers the church has more or less been in a breakeven position on a cash flow basis. Once they lose the Salvation army rent there will be a shortfall of about $100,000 each year if no other tenant is found. Given that the church has about $800,000 in cash it certainly won't run out of money in 2 years but it will run out, probably at the same time the roof collapses.
It strikes me that there is a glut of old churches for rent now and more will be coming down the pike shortly so its extremely unlikely that another tenant will be found. Lets face it barring a miracle (yes there have been many-people even purportedly arose from death) secularization of our society is well past the point of return.
Yes, they can hold on to the church for a few more years but why? Each year the pews will get even more empty and the building more forlorn through lack of maintenance.
Soon the last one out will just turn off the lights for good.
It strikes me that its better to leave on your own terms rather than have it forced on your congregation.
As I understand Vaino's numbers the church has more or less been in a breakeven position on a cash flow basis. Once they lose the Salvation army rent there will be a shortfall of about $100,000 each year if no other tenant is found. Given that the church has about $800,000 in cash it certainly won't run out of money in 2 years but it will run out, probably at the same time the roof collapses.
It strikes me that there is a glut of old churches for rent now and more will be coming down the pike shortly so its extremely unlikely that another tenant will be found. Lets face it barring a miracle (yes there have been many-people even purportedly arose from death) secularization of our society is well past the point of return.
Yes, they can hold on to the church for a few more years but why? Each year the pews will get even more empty and the building more forlorn through lack of maintenance.
Soon the last one out will just turn off the lights for good.
It strikes me that its better to leave on your own terms rather than have it forced on your congregation.
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