It was not Maxim. The Estonian phrase I was not able to understand was
"veisevaljaheited".

Maxim's nemisis said: "I'll never read another word that you write. No, not even the inevitable response to this message."

Maxim responds with, " Hey, wow-I even get one last message."

How does the second to last paragraph of this article with its marginally acceptable English tie in with the statements made by Estonian Prime Minister on May 8, 2005 at the site of the former concentration camp at Klooga, Estonia? To me it suggests that EKN is biased in its outlook. This may not be deliberate as over the decades it has become ossified as the average age of its members crept up.
Perhaps the time has come for EKN to leave delicate and controversial matters such as this in the capable hands of the young professionals in Estonia and stick to cultural issues. They seem to have difficulty understanding that they no longer speak for free Estonia. We may not always agree with the government in Estonia but they were freely elected and such is the nature of democracy.

Peter, do I understand you to be saying that the reply to the international commision should be that they are racists, bigots and hate Estonians and are out to get us for some politcal reason?

I do not recall Peter ever saying he admired Hitler. Peter are you there?

Some, especially outsiders with an axe to grind, reading the last paragraph in the EKN article could easily come to the conclusion that EKN regrets that Hitler lost the war. I do not think that EKN really means this but nevertheless EKN should clarify before those wishing Estonians ill jump on it.

Earlier in this very exchange, Peter hints that the late Tõnu Parming just might have been a historical revisionist. That bit of wishful thinkling on Peter's part would be profoundly insulting to Parming because there is a world of difference between a conservative nationalist and an authoritarian, nationalistic anti-semite.

God protect the reputation of Parming from admirers like Peter.

Peter, do we understand you to be saying that you take the side of the arab terrorist of 9-11 and Arrafat's boys against Israel? Strikes me that the arabs are out to annilate Israel and us as well if we do not convert to Islam.

You guys and girls can spend a long time going throught the archives of this site looking for the comments I made where I expressed admiration for Hitler for the simple fact that I never made any such comments. I did get into a rather long argument with this very angry person who never has anything positive, interesting of constructive to say and spends most of his time bashing Maxim for some unknown reason. He defended the Canadian goverment when they arrested Ernst Zündel for his revisionist writings about WWII. Hey Maxim, if you are reading this, is this guy (or girl) who dislikes you so much someone you used to know here who you rubbed the wrong way?
On the subject of Parming, go back and read my comment again if you did not understand it. I know as a fact that there was much concern over the articles that he wrote and some people thought that he should not be writing about such a sensitive subject. There are powerful lobby groups that would gladly jail members of our community without charges or a trial for challenging some Soviet propaganda about WW II. If you have any doubts then just ask Ernst.
On the subject of the Moslems I have stated many times that Islam is the greatest threat to the Western world at this time and I would compare it to communism during the 20s. Israel is also no friend of the West as they would like nothing better than to drag us into their wars as they have succeeded in doing by getting the Americans involved in Iraq.

Parming must have been quite the guy to be brave enough to write about such a contentious topic under his own name. A Google search indicates he was both a warrior against communism as well as being an intellectual.
It would indeed be great if the editor published some of his better pieces in English. Those of us that only read Vaba Eestlane would not have been aware of his articles. Too bad that he died at such an early age.
It seems that it will take the passing away of those that left Estonia on their own feet before anny meaningful and impartial discussion on this topic is possible. There simply seems to be too many skeletons and raw nerves out there. The Jews had to wander around for 40 years. Those old Estonians seem to live much longer nowadays.

One cannot help but compare the concluding remarks of this article to the comments made by the president of Estonia at Klooga Estonia on July 24, 2005.
President Ruutel said "I feel hurt that among the citizens of our state there were those who participated in Nazi crimes.....
As long as there are those who wish to justify the crimes committed during both German as well as Soviet occupation there is a danger that such deeds could be repeated."
Too bad EKN could not bring itsef to admit that.

"If you have any doubts then just ask Ernst." ......Wow! You bow before a peculiar saint, Peter.

This is the guy that wrote a book describing the tropical paradise that exists in the hollow Earth, accessable from the poles and the place that Hitler escaped to, via flying saucer, at the end of WWII. Hitler will return to us one day, Zundel assures us, to save humanity from the scourge of the Jews.

You have to wonder about leadership that is so pre-occupied with events that happened 50 or 60 years ago that they continue to cloak themselves in embittered victimhood with no end in sight.....

Is the above posting about Arab, Jewish or Diaspora Estonian leadership?
Horrors, it could be all three! This may go on for a long time indeed.
Hey folks, do you think the postings will hit the century mark?

We seem to keep getting sidetracked here. In my opinion this constant slandering of Estonians by those who portray us as evil nazis is something that our community should not put up with. If younger people hear this kind of propaganda then it is almost certain that they will be so turned off that they will stay away from our activities and organizations. One only has to look at Canada's German community which was at one time such a strong and vibrant ethnic group with numerous schools, newspapers, organizations, etc. that has almost vanished mainly because of the negative self-image of German Canadians.
Maxim will probably say that we should all move to Estonia but I was born here as were most of us and my life and job are here as well. It concerns me that we must make excuses about what happened during the war but I also feel that the EKN is on the right track by explaining what really happened to other Canadians. I have often been critical of the EKN in the past and coming from me this is a real compliment.

EKN is doubtless delighted that both Maxim the erudite patriot in Estonia and Zundel fan Peter support them. Well done EKN!

Hey! This is your lucky day. Today I’m going to show you how to pick out a Neanderthal in the crowd. Don’t be surprised, but they are all around you, really! Shhhh! Don’t stare! It’s actually pretty easy to spot a Neanderthal in the crowd. Not only do they sometimes have a heavy brow and an especially small forehead, they talk very loudly, and they are usually sporting a nationalist flag pin on their lapel. They are everywhere. You’ve seen them. But first off, we’ve got to get the terminology of some fashion items’ names down pat. May we? Great. The first item that you need to know the name of is the Hinomaru. The Hinomaru literally translates into the "Round Sun." It is the flag of Japan. Even though Japan lost World War II, Japan still uses this flag. You can see the Hinomaru above government buildings in Japan or on buses during national holidays and such. One thing you probably won’t see is your average everyday Japanese sporting one of these Hinomaru flag lapel pins any day of the year. In fact, I don’t ever recall even seeing a Japanese Prime Minister sporting one of these pins. Why? I’ll get to that in a moment. The next flag is the Nishoka. The Nishoka was used specifically by the old Japanese Imperial Navy. I personally think this design is pretty cool. You will rarely ever see one of these flags in Japan today. I guess if you go to a museum or such, you’ll find one. On national holidays in Japan you can sometimes see the Hinomaru on display in a very – very – few people’s homes, but I cannot recall even once seeing the Nishoka on public display. If you do see one of these flags on display in Japan today, that is a sign that the person displaying the flag is a nationalist. In most countries that have an educated populace in today’s modern world, being a nationalist is a sign of a poor education.

This next one is a real crowd pleaser: it’s called the Hakenkreuz. It was the symbol of the National Socialist Party of Germany from the 1920’s to 1945. I’ll bet that the Hakenkreuz was the tops in fashion back in the days when Germany was winning the war. But, today, in either of the two above-mentioned nations, you don’t see educated normal people wearing these types of things on their clothing anymore. Why? Well, the answer is obvious; wearing items like these on one’s clothing is a sign of oafish, thuggish behavior. Sporting these types of accessories tells people around you that you are not intelligentsia, that you are probably a right-winged nutcase and therefore, you have a poor education and don’t read. Admit it. I’m absolutely correct on this one, right? If you saw some Japanese guy or some German guy wearing one of these things, you’d think he were some sort of psychotic living in the past.

In fact, in Japan, this sort of bizarre behavior works great for some things: You don’t want any salesmen coming to your door? No visitors? You want everyone to be afraid of you so that no one would dare break into your apartment and rip you off? No problem. Just put a Hinomaru and a Nishoka on your door and mailbox. No one will even want to talk to you; including your own neighbors. Everyone will think you are some sort of fascist, and they will leave you alone. Because, you see, sporting these kinds of fashion accessories in a normal country full of normal people (like Japan) is a sign that you indeed are a right-winged nut and need to be left alone; if not institutionalized for your own safety.

It’s a sure bet that back in Nazi Germany there were lots of them too. It didn’t matter what was going on, they were there. Heck, what are a few dozen lost freedoms and a few major setbacks on the front to a true patriot, right? If you aren’t doing anything wrong, then what’s to fear from the Gestapo taping your phones? So what if it’s 2,500 kilometers lost on the Russian front, or a firebombing of Dresden? So what if it’s Russian troops entering Berlin? You’ve got to support the troops, right? My country right or wrong. These colors don’t run. To question the leadership is a cowardly and despicable act and truly anti-patriotic.

Am I confusing you? I shouldn’t be if you’d just stop to think about this for a moment. I must admit though, most probably a war veteran of any country should have the right to wear these types of "pledge pins."