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For the first time, I'm in sharp disagreement with Paul Goble -- I can't recall any Soviet propoganda that deceived anyone, apart from a very few "willful" kooks among NDP'ers and sociology professors.
Then, as now, Russian propaganda was too unimaginative to be believed. It seemed to be based on the idea that, if a crude lie is repeated stridently and incessantly, it will acquire some plausibility.
Then, as now, Russian propaganda was too unimaginative to be believed. It seemed to be based on the idea that, if a crude lie is repeated stridently and incessantly, it will acquire some plausibility.
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0Usually, I wait before responding to anything. So I know I'm going to regret this one, but here it goes anyway...
ANONYMOUS, your "signature" / style / whatever, leads me to believe you weren't even an adult when the Cold War was hot. During the “hotter phase” the Soviet’s intense propaganda, superb disinformation, etc. resulted, among other things, in the Students for a Democratic Society (SDS) and similar movements on Campuses.
Not to belabour a point, but the USSR was a master at disinformation.
ANONYMOUS, your "signature" / style / whatever, leads me to believe you weren't even an adult when the Cold War was hot. During the “hotter phase” the Soviet’s intense propaganda, superb disinformation, etc. resulted, among other things, in the Students for a Democratic Society (SDS) and similar movements on Campuses.
Not to belabour a point, but the USSR was a master at disinformation.
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0I'll concede that the Soviets had a few spectaclular propaganda victories.
Through the SDS and the likes of Jane Fonda, they helped shift public opinion against the Vietnam War.
With the assistance of Senator Ted Kennedy (who should have been charged with treason for offering help to the Soviets), they shifted public opinion against the "Star Wars" defensive missle sheild.
These "victories" aside, most Soviet propaganda was composed of laughable reports of cheerful collective farmers brining in yet another record wheat harvest. My personal favourite from this heap of b.s. was their explanation for the Berlin Wall -- it had to be build to prevent West Berliners from crossing over to East Berlin to purchase potatoes at heavily subsidized prices.
Through the SDS and the likes of Jane Fonda, they helped shift public opinion against the Vietnam War.
With the assistance of Senator Ted Kennedy (who should have been charged with treason for offering help to the Soviets), they shifted public opinion against the "Star Wars" defensive missle sheild.
These "victories" aside, most Soviet propaganda was composed of laughable reports of cheerful collective farmers brining in yet another record wheat harvest. My personal favourite from this heap of b.s. was their explanation for the Berlin Wall -- it had to be build to prevent West Berliners from crossing over to East Berlin to purchase potatoes at heavily subsidized prices.
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0Laughable to us, especially those of us raised by Balts who fled the Soviets, but not laughable to many Russians living in Russia, who have been raised with a different style of thinking and ignorance etc.
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0The US leadership at the time of the Cold War was only too interested in promoting bilateral interests with the Soviets. I'm still waiting with baited breath for the US Administration to come clean on this issue. Stop lying North America and let's get down to cleaning up the past and getting on with the future!
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0Maxim, you semi-literate. What are you waiting for with "baited breath"? Do you think that you might catch a few flies with your big mouth, wide open?
Buy yourself a dictionary. Look up "baited" and "bated".
Buy yourself a dictionary. Look up "baited" and "bated".
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0This is a typical comment from Maxim.
Essentially -- he's saying that he possess some secret knowledge and, on that basis, he knows what should be done.
But he provides no concrete information about either. So, Maxim's comment only amounts to an advertisement that he, Maxim, is a VIP who knows it all.
It's no wonder that people think that he's a megalomaniac.
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Essentially -- he's saying that he possess some secret knowledge and, on that basis, he knows what should be done.
But he provides no concrete information about either. So, Maxim's comment only amounts to an advertisement that he, Maxim, is a VIP who knows it all.
It's no wonder that people think that he's a megalomaniac.
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0And do you think former Ontario Premier Mike Harris wasn't listening to Putin when he was staying at his personal dacha in Sochi for all of April 2007?
Just ask our Ukrainian friends how members of the current government pulled lines directly out of the Russian Embassy's talking points when trying to pass the Holomodor legislation.
Just ask our Ukrainian friends how members of the current government pulled lines directly out of the Russian Embassy's talking points when trying to pass the Holomodor legislation.
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