Couldn't you also view it that the division in the community has been created by those who are reluctant to embrace a new future? It all depends on your perspective.

In either case, better to focus on the way forward rather than decide whose fault it is that things are where they are. It's been a long road and oodles of people and organizations over decades are responsible for the fact that things are how they are.

I am really concerned that this expensive and complicated building over a subway system is not going to happen -- that the plan does not not seem to be well thought out and it will run out of $.

The community does not feel like they are included in the process. PR bulletins do not equal a dialogue.

I am also concerned that a substantial number of people in the community were an afterthought to the plan -- having a drop off location at Madison is not a well thought out solution to commuters and seniors not wanting to come into the city core. This issue should have been determined before going full steam ahead with these plans.

I don't see how the Madison option "can be fixed" to make it work. I see band-aid solutions.

At the moment, I can't get excited about Madison. Without having a buy-in to this plan, I don't see how I can get behind this in a significant financial way... the community will be asked to donate in support of this building, and I don't feel it belongs to the community.

I just feel sadness and loss of what could have been -- a community inclusive approach.

I was at the community town hall and I found the arguments presented about repair costs and space usability issues in EM convincing. I did not think anything was being hidden from me or that there were competing (secret) agendas.

But then, I have no sentimental attachment to the current EM so I just looked at the facts.

Waiting for facts is exactly what people are doing. It would be nice if instead of being labelled "conspiracy theorists" their questions were answered instead. Is that asking too much?

How long do we wait? Until the shovels hit the ground at Madison in Fall 2018, as apparently was announced at the Annex residents meeting held recently at Tartu College?

You're missing (or ignoring) the point. The decision to sell the Esto House has been made already and that's what's being questioned - some reputable experts have told us in no uncertain terms that the building is in excellent shape so people are wondering why we were we told it wasn't?

If this question would be satisfactorily answered, I believe that the disharmony would disappear.

Waiting ... waiting ... waiting ...

3Orgs lubasid alguses Due Diligence lõpetada novembri lõpuks, nüüd on see aeg nihkunud varakevadeks. Mul ei ole eriti usku, et see kevadeks valmis saab.

Ma arvan, et nad ei saanud vastuseid mida nad tahtsid ja nüüd on vaja aega, et uusi vastuseid saada, sellised mis on meelepärasemad. Nende ego ja uhkus ei luba tunnistada, et madisoni project ei tööta, eriti kui nii palju raha on juba sinna sisse pandud.

Yes, yes, yes!

I want a community intact, even if the building isn't as grand as the beautiful Kongats building. But it can be spectacular, if we dared to dream.

I do not feel a sense of community with how the Madison project is being handled. We should not be leaving members of the community behind.

Üks nendest majadest pole Sihtkapitali oma, mis tähendab et nende oma on ainult kaks. Küsige Hessi, Põldre, Tauli jne käest.

If non-shareholders had to pay for parking, they'd look for street parking.
A better solution would be to install pay-toilets in the washrooms and ask Meiusi to put his money where his mouth is.

Re: Pay-parking
The Esto House is not a charity, although most shareholders initially bought in with charitable intent to enable Estonians to have a community center.
The parking lot requires constant maintenance like snow-shoveling.
To make end meet the halls get rented to non-Estonians. Why shouldn't they pay a dollar to park to help with the upkeep? Street parking and TTC are options, but maybe some Esto non-shareholders won't begrudge such a fundraising tactic.
Tartu College at one point let you buy a parking card ($60.00?), and if you returned it, you got your money back.